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  • 19 December 2011

    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Egypt; Mixed-member; VOTES

    The Arabist has images of the separate ballots for candidates and for party lists that are being used in Egypt’s election.

    The examples shown offer 122 candidates (for two seats), but a mere 16 parties.

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    Thanks to Matt Singer for the tip.

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (0)


    18 December 2011

    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Egypt; VOTES

    Commenting on the preliminary results of the first stage of the Egyptian elections, Samuel Tadros on 6 December noted that representation of the Christian minority is likely to be well below their share of the population.

    Only four Christians won seats through the party-list system and three have reached the runoff stage on the individual seats. This number is not likely to increase dramatically in the next two stages, as the next two stages are taking place in governates with fewer Christian votes and candidates. The overall parliament will have fewer than ten Christians elected among its 498 members.

    Women will also win few seats.

    While the electoral system required parties to include a minimum of one woman in their lists, nearly all of them chose to put that women near the end of the list, and in the case of the Salafists, the very last name, ensuring they wouldn’t win.

    Tadros also points to some important questions regarding runoffs in the two-seat districts. For instance,

    What kind of coalitions will be built? In cases where a non-Islamist and a Salafist are running against two Muslim Brotherhood members, do they forge an alliance or are their ideological differences too deep to allow them from taking the right step electorally?

    Best of, all, Tadros shows throughout the article that he knows the difference between a round and a stage.

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (0)


    16 December 2011

    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Egypt; ELECTORAL SYSTEMS & REFORM

    Press coverage of this week’s voting in Egypt has tended to refer to the events as the “second round” of voting.

    This is misleading. The term to use when a country (or other jurisdiction) sees some districts vote on one date and others vote on a later date should be “stage” not “round”. The use of “stage” is standard in India, a country where both the federal and state electoral processes take place in different clusters of districts on different dates.

    The terminology being widely used for Egypt is all the more confusing when each stage has two rounds! Many districts in Egypt will not have a winner in the initial count of votes, due to rules requiring a majority. There must be a runoff in such districts. This is the true meaning of “second round”.

    One might expect that Indian journalists would get this right, but I heard the Indian co-host of BBC’s World Briefing the other day refer to “the second round of voting in Egypt”, notwithstanding that she was actually referring to the first round of the second stage. Soon we will have the second round of the second stage, to be followed by the first round of the third stage…

    Really, is this so difficult to get straight?

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (4)


    13 December 2011

    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Australia

    The Premier of New South Wales (the state in which Sydney, Australia, is located) has received “expert” advice to introduce a system of recall elections in the state. From the SMH:

    an early election could only be called with the support of 35 per cent of eligible voters, including at least 5 per cent from half the state’s electorates [districts.]

    The article says the the expert commission’s report says that:

    recall systems operate in 19 states of the US, the Canadian province of British Columbia, parts of Switzerland and Germany and in Liechtenstein, Bolivia, Venezuela, Japan, Taiwan and the Philippines.

    However, if I understand the NSW proposal correctly, it would allow the petitioners to demand an early dissolution of parliament. Is there anything like this among recall provisions elsewhere? I thought all other recalls were directed at individual legislators or directly elected executives, not at a legislative chamber as a whole (and thus at any government responsible to said legislature). Would the NSW proposal, if adopted, be an innovation?

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (1)


    Planted by Alan
    Planted in: Asia: East & Oceania; PNG

    Last August the Parliament of Papua-New Guinea designated (recommended for appointment) Peter O’Neill as prime minster. Yesterday the supreme court ruled that designation, and subsequent action by the governor-general, was illegal because there was no vacancy for the parliament or the governor-general to fill. Both the sitting prime minister and the former prime minister are now claiming the office.

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (13)


    11 December 2011

    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Mixed-member; MMP Review; New Zealand; Referenda

    Results have now been released from the 26 November referendum on the New Zealand electoral system. The referendum consisted of two parts. In Part A, voters were asked “Should New Zealand keep the Mixed Member Proportional (MMP) voting system?” In Part B, voters were asked “If New Zealand were to change to another voting system, which voting system would you choose?”, with a menu of four choices for the change option: First Past the Post, Preferential Voting, Single Transferable Vote, and Supplementary Member.

    In Part A, 57.77% voted to keep MMP. This, of course, renders Part B moot. Nonetheless, comparing across the two parts is interesting. While 2,194,774 valid votes were cast in Part A, there were only 1,509,157 in Part B. Informal votes, defined as “when the voter has not clearly indicated the option for which they wish to vote” were just 62,469 in Part A, but a whopping 748,086 in Part B.

    If we can assume that essentially all of the 926,819 voters who voted to change from MMP would have indicated a preference over the four change options, then it would seem that approximately half of the “keep MMP” voters did not bother to select an alternative system.1 One wonders how many of these voters simply were confident MMP would be kept, so it was not worth taking a stand on (and bothering to learn about) the alternatives, and how many did not understand that they could choose an alternative even while voting for the current system.

    Rationally, any MMP supporter should prefer STV over all the others offered, given that STV is the only proportional system among the alternatives.2 Yet STV obtained only 252,503 votes (16.7% of valid votes in Part B), placing third among the alternatives. If just under two thirds of the informal vote in Part B had been cast by MMP voters indicating STV as their fallback, then STV would have beaten out FPTP in Part B.

    A referendum in 2014 between the two proportional systems would have been interesting, had “change” won in Part A. Instead, however, the old FPTP system dominated Part B. It was probably expectation of precisely such a result that generated such indifference over Part B, as few could imagine FPTP ever beating MMP in a second referendum were one to have been triggered.

    The results in Part B, with percentages based on valid votes only, were:

      48.66% FPTP
      24.14% SM (i.e. MMM)
      16.72% STV
      12.47% PV (AV)
    1. 685,617 is the difference between the valid votes cast in the two parts; this is equivalent to 54% of the 1,267,955 votes for keeping MMP. []
    2. Unless what someone really likes about MMP is the single-seat districts, yet would not want FPTP again. I suppose such a voter might rank Preferential Voting–that is, the Alternative Vote–as second best. And some could argue for “SM” (MMM) as being most similar to MMP, though it is far worse than any option other than FPTP for supporters of parties other than the big two. []

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (30)


    07 December 2011

    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Mixed-member; New Zealand; Travel; VOTES

    See the whole set of election sign photos, many with notes, from the recent New Zealand campaign!

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (2)


    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Australia; POLITICAL PARTIES

    By chance, we passed back through Sydney on our way home from New Zealand on the weekend when the Australian Labor Party was holding its conference in the city.

    There were posters around downtown announcing various protests on positions taken by the party, including on same-sex marriage and the “offshore processing” of refugees.


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    This sign says that a conscience vote is not enough. The Labor-led government plans to allow such a vote, meaning that the vote will not be whipped as government policy. Which likely means a proposal for leagalizing same-sex marriage will be defeated, which suits PM Julia Gillard just fine.


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    Here is a sign announcing a demonstration against the refugee policy.


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    And here is a view of one of the rallies outside the Convention Centre on Sunday, taken with the telephoto from the 40th floor of the Meriton Serviced Apartments on Kent St.

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (8)


    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Australia; Travel

    I took a lot of photos in Sydney. You can see all 120-something at the Sydney set on Flickr.

    But here are a few of my favorites.


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    I like the way it almost seems as if the cruise ship is partly inside the opera house.


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    Thanks to the Macleay Serviced Apartments for making this view available.


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    Government House, located within the spectacular botanic garden.

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (0)


    06 December 2011

    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: Egypt

    Andy Reynolds offers a first look at the election in Egypt.

    The electoral system used, plus the overall fragmentation, may be leading to significant over-representation of the Islamist parties. Further,

    At this early stage it is possible to predict that once the election dust settles in January the Muslim Brotherhood’s FJP will win a comfortable parliamentary majority (perhaps 55-60% of the seats in the People’s Assembly) on approximately 40% of the popular vote… The ‘losers’ in the election system will clearly be the nascent liberal forces…

    Andy also has an update on this first stage of voting, following the runoffs in the nominal-tier seats.

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (0)


    05 December 2011

    Planted by MSS
    Planted in: FRUITS; Taiwan; VOTES

    Here at F&V we rather like the idea of fruits figuring in a campaign.

    Nathan Batto has all the juicy details at his Taiwan politics blog, Frozen Garlic.

    Propagation: Seeds & scions (0)


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